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Yesterday I drew first floor of a colonial as built-primary area the kitchen with some windows and such for other rooms from photos-basically show whatever affects views to or from kitchen- in an hour.Ĭhanging things- changing colors or doorstyles is far faster. I generally draw most if not all of the floor in question though some outside the area under consideration is approximate. Stable-rarely crashes, even more rare to lose much work.ĭrawing walls and adjusting them is so easy that there is no point in not drawing a complet room. Working- unlimited tabs, elevations, multiple perspective views, editable in all views (though some things work better in one than another) Though the drawings are not up to my current standards) Then drew up a 2100 sq ft house with highly detailed cabinets in kitchen, LR, hall, walk in closet, another closet, master bath, bath, and office hobby work space. (That said when I first got CA I took an 8 hour on line class, promptly got the flu and did not get near the program for a month. Single downside is the learning curve is a bit worse though getting up and running to begin with is easy enough. Simply the ONLY thing I can do in 2020 that I can't do in Chief is get instant pricing. Need to represent stairs, split levels, vaired height rooms (floor or ceiling), any odd type of buiding. Business model is design matters more than price, you care about the final result, better brands of cabinets, most any amount of custom, need to draw accurate spaces/buildings, need detailed drawing for manufacturer or installer, need to move walls, need demo/construction plans, need electric plans. Support still sucks.Īpparently there is now a work around that will get back disappearing user dimensions and notes most of the time.Ĭhanges to the rendering engine get mixed reviews. Stability has improved a little since I used it, however when it goes it goes and repair is not for the simple user. In many cases operators resort to a new drawing.
However you need to be completely familiar with the catalog of the brand you are changing to. If you are a really good user it can possibly be easier to change brands mid-design. In terms of protecting you from design mistakes, as used by most operators (who are porne to override settings) I'd say Chief wins. It could be argued that 2020 protects you from yourself preventing the KD from including items are not available. The advent of on line pricing tools from mfg's makes in program pricing moot unless you run a mill IMO. Keeping retail pricing updated within the program is an art form and rarely done. That said many higher end kitchen designers can't or won't use it and look on it with absolute scorn.ĭoes pricing within the program - reliability of pricing depends on design catalog, drawing.
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When to use 2020-if business model is to compete with the box stores, or target primarily budget minded customers, draw kitchens with a minimum number of walls and need to get decent pricing quickly using a semi custom cabinet brand from one of the conglomerates-it can be a good choice.Ģ020 has a larger market share in kitchens so the labor force of people who know how to use it will be wider.
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Note since that time 2020 has moved to V11 with a few in between updates, CA is currently at X9 and will have another full upgrade next spring. I have kept track to changes in 2020- they have been negligible when it comes to fixing long standing problems IMO. At first I was a somewhat reluctant user and a harsh critic/gadfly about CA's shortcomings.
Started with Chief X3 in 2011 so I stopped updating 2020 at V9 but continued to use it as an adjunct for several years. I started using 2020 in 2000, I got Envisioneer (similar to Chief but imports 2020 files) to work with 2020 in 2010. Granted from both companies those are as much marketing as real life use. I'd suggest that watching the presentation videos on line would be a good idea. To solve problems they resort to either CAD or in many cases pencils. Then there were 6 designers, now there are 4 I believe.
Where I used to work we needed to do that to a certain extent. There may be some larger DB firms that use both but no one in their right mind would try to get adequate drawings for construction, build, serious remodel from 2020. The short answer would be if you are looking at design build there is simply no contest.
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Seeking an opinion from a seasoned cabinetry business pro who has used both 2020 and Chief to help her to understand how the two products compare and contrast for use in a business which aspires to expand and become a leader in the local market selling not only cabinetry, but also a design/build business model
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